President Dougherty got it wrong about off-campus living

By Duke Staff

 

UPDATE    2:49     10/23/15

President Dougherty emailed a letter of apology to Student Government Association President John Foster Friday morning. In the letter, Dougherty apologizes to those who were offended, but also defends his position, saying:

“….I made the point that life off campus allows for greater access to alcohol, sometimes in violation of state law. It also allows for sexual behaviors that we cannot accept on the campus of a Catholic university.”

The full text of the letter can be found here: President Dougherty’s Letter

____________________________________________

ORIGINAL ARTICLE BEGINS HERE:

According to the Merriam-Webster dictionary, “libertine” means “a person … who leads an immoral life and is mainly interested in sexual pleasure.”

It is an ugly, unflattering word to use to describe someone. And yet it is exactly the word Duquesne University President Charles Dougherty used to describe non-resident Duquesne students during his Town Hall address to faculty Tuesday afternoon.

“We know why they move off-campus,” Dougherty said, referring to juniors and seniors who decide not to stay in dorms. “They flaunt [sic] the state liquor laws and they live a libertine lifestyle that is not allowed on campus.

“We are aware of the mardis gras that goes on [off-campus] every weekend.”

Dougherty made these comments as part of his address to campus faculty about the university’s financial situation. According to Dougherty and Vice President for Management and Business David Beaupre, there are 304 empty beds in campus dorms this semester. This means that only 92 percent of campus beds are occupied, compared to 98 percent in the spring.

As Dougherty pointed out, when juniors and seniors move off-campus, the university loses room and board money. As more and more juniors and seniors move to neighborhoods such as the South Side, the Hill District and Oakland, university officials are trying to determine why.

More than half of The Duke’s staff lives off-campus. Perhaps we can provide some insight into why students move away; other than flaunting liquor laws and leading libertine lives, of course.

The primary reason to move off campus is price. Price, price, price. Room and board rates start at $5,000 and can reach $7,000. This means students are spending at least $1,250 each month, which is roughly double what a student renting a house on the South Side spends on rent, utilities and groceries.

On top of that, Duquesne only offers one apartment-style dorm: Brottier Hall. Although there are 304 empty beds on campus this year, Brottier is completely full. Students want kitchens, areas to entertain guests, and some freedom to decorate, rearrange and furnish — and they can get that off-campus.

The staff of The Duke are not libertines, along with the many students who choose to live off campus — and we have the work ethic and GPAs to prove it. Saying that students only move off-campus to drink and party is offensive and inaccurate. That might be the motivation for some students, but certainly not all. In addition, students who wish to live “mardis gras” lives do so regardless of the locale. A five-second perusal of the Duquesne Police’s weekly crime log shows that students regularly drink, party and abuse drugs on campus. The Duke staff would like to encourage the university’s administration to dig a little deeper if they really want to determine the reasons upperclassmen are abandoning campus.

198 thoughts on “President Dougherty got it wrong about off-campus living

  1. As the parent of an off campus student, I think Mr. Dougherty has missed the mark on the benefit that paying your own bills, managing your schedule, preparing your own food, working within a budget, etc. has on a maturing college student. At a certain point, the RA won’t be there, but the off campus student learns to control the heat to save money and how to stretch a grocery dollar.

  2. As the parent of an off campus student, I think Mr. Dougherty has missed the mark on the benefit that paying your own bills, managing your schedule, preparing your own food, working within a budget, etc. has on a maturing college student. At a certain point, the RA won’t be there, but the off campus student learns to control the heat to save money and how to stretch a grocery dollar.

  3. I live on campus, and you can bet your Bible all I do is study in my room. Members of the opposite gender are forbidden from entering this fortress where I rest my head. I do not associate with the low-lifes who choose to live off campus, because they commit sins of the devil. I’m surprised Duquesne allows them to attend the university still with their habits preceding them.

    Seriously, Dougherty?! Your salary is one of the largest in the profession. Best not bite the hand that feeds.

  4. I live on campus, and you can bet your Bible all I do is study in my room. Members of the opposite gender are forbidden from entering this fortress where I rest my head. I do not associate with the low-lifes who choose to live off campus, because they commit sins of the devil. I’m surprised Duquesne allows them to attend the university still with their habits preceding them.

    Seriously, Dougherty?! Your salary is one of the largest in the profession. Best not bite the hand that feeds.

  5. I live on campus, and you can bet your Bible all I do is study in my room. Members of the opposite gender are forbidden from entering this fortress where I rest my head. I do not associate with the low-lifes who choose to live off campus, because they commit sins of the devil. I’m surprised Duquesne allows them to attend the university still with their habits preceding them.

    Seriously, Dougherty?! Your salary is one of the largest in the profession. Best not bite the hand that feeds.

  6. I feel as if the Jesus statue that used to be outside of Trinity Hall being pushed to the side to make place for an obscene token of opulence is an uncanny metaphor for the current trajectory of Duquesne’s scope of value. Squeeze as much money out of the students as they can without taking into consideration THEIR preferences and accusing them of incubating a Sodom and Gomorra of sorts- hiding behind their inability to fill residence halls. Is a hotdog a sandwich? I can’t say for myself, but I ask you Charles Dougherty- is a hotdog in fact a sandwich?

  7. I feel as if the Jesus statue that used to be outside of Trinity Hall being pushed to the side to make place for an obscene token of opulence is an uncanny metaphor for the current trajectory of Duquesne’s scope of value. Squeeze as much money out of the students as they can without taking into consideration THEIR preferences and accusing them of incubating a Sodom and Gomorra of sorts- hiding behind their inability to fill residence halls. Is a hotdog a sandwich? I can’t say for myself, but I ask you Charles Dougherty- is a hotdog in fact a sandwich?

  8. I feel as if the Jesus statue that used to be outside of Trinity Hall being pushed to the side to make place for an obscene token of opulence is an uncanny metaphor for the current trajectory of Duquesne’s scope of value. Squeeze as much money out of the students as they can without taking into consideration THEIR preferences and accusing them of incubating a Sodom and Gomorra of sorts- hiding behind their inability to fill residence halls. Is a hotdog a sandwich? I can’t say for myself, but I ask you Charles Dougherty- is a hotdog in fact a sandwich?

  9. Sad to see my alma mater so filled with greed, especially when it is intended to be driven by ethical standards being catholic. Whenever I read about the inevitable student loan bubble the first place I think of is Duquesne driving kids deeper into debt every year.

    Now to the living off campus issue. Does anyone find it ironic that Duquesne maintains the DU Cares program for students caught using alcohol in the dorms? Take a quick trip down Forbes Ave to Pitt and students caught drinking in the dorms under 21 will receive an underage charge 10 out of 10 times. They use DU Cares to hide that college students are doing things that college students do because it keeps the public from seeing this. As mentioned earlier in these comments the wings in Towers are an absolute zoo, and I had the time of my life living there.

    I really try and be proud when I tell people I have a degree from Duquesne, but between crap like this and seeing the school advertised like the University of Phoenix online because of their greed it is becoming more difficult every year.

  10. Sad to see my alma mater so filled with greed, especially when it is intended to be driven by ethical standards being catholic. Whenever I read about the inevitable student loan bubble the first place I think of is Duquesne driving kids deeper into debt every year.

    Now to the living off campus issue. Does anyone find it ironic that Duquesne maintains the DU Cares program for students caught using alcohol in the dorms? Take a quick trip down Forbes Ave to Pitt and students caught drinking in the dorms under 21 will receive an underage charge 10 out of 10 times. They use DU Cares to hide that college students are doing things that college students do because it keeps the public from seeing this. As mentioned earlier in these comments the wings in Towers are an absolute zoo, and I had the time of my life living there.

    I really try and be proud when I tell people I have a degree from Duquesne, but between crap like this and seeing the school advertised like the University of Phoenix online because of their greed it is becoming more difficult every year.

  11. Sad to see my alma mater so filled with greed, especially when it is intended to be driven by ethical standards being catholic. Whenever I read about the inevitable student loan bubble the first place I think of is Duquesne driving kids deeper into debt every year.

    Now to the living off campus issue. Does anyone find it ironic that Duquesne maintains the DU Cares program for students caught using alcohol in the dorms? Take a quick trip down Forbes Ave to Pitt and students caught drinking in the dorms under 21 will receive an underage charge 10 out of 10 times. They use DU Cares to hide that college students are doing things that college students do because it keeps the public from seeing this. As mentioned earlier in these comments the wings in Towers are an absolute zoo, and I had the time of my life living there.

    I really try and be proud when I tell people I have a degree from Duquesne, but between crap like this and seeing the school advertised like the University of Phoenix online because of their greed it is becoming more difficult every year.

  12. Check the rusty plumbing in the dorms and don’t bean counters ruin Duquesne! Share this story and comments with the Trib!

  13. Check the rusty plumbing in the dorms and don’t bean counters ruin Duquesne! Share this story and comments with the Trib!

  14. Check the rusty plumbing in the dorms and don’t bean counters ruin Duquesne! Share this story and comments with the Trib!

  15. As a mom of a senior student who has made the Dean’s List every semester since Freshman year I am sickened and appalled by your comments. My daughter lived on campus Freshman year so she could get the “college experience”. The nice way of saying living with a stranger in a noisy room, half the size of her own for an exorbitant amount of money. Let’s not even talk about the expensive meal plan that lacks flavor or diversity. We moved her home Sophomore year due to her roommate having a breakdown and to save money when her Dad was laid off. Despite the hardship and her 4.0 she was not eligible for aid. Instead what we saved in dorms was charged to a parking pass. Slippery Rock students pay $60 a year. Duquesne pays $800. I get Duquesne is in the city as apposed to other colleges but surely you can see where this can bd viewed as price gouging. So yes, when Junior year rolled around we as her parents reluctantly agreed a South Side residency was best. Not only can she share an entire house with 2 friends she chose at a FRACTION of the price but she has free parking and access to a shuttle. The house comes with a clean, more up to date kitchen than your “best” dormitory overs and the girls are learning to cook for each other and themselves and save money. Are there ever boys over? You bet your ass there are because when you forced our hand to move my daughter into an “unsavory” neighborhood I insist her guy FRIENDS escort the ladies home. As do the boys moms as well. We have had the privilege of getting to know her roommates, friends and even their parents that we wouldn’t if she stayed in the dorms. And yes I have met them out after work for a cocktail. Does that make me a “Libertine”? Be careful of your answer Mr. Dougherty as I sign the tuition checks that help make up YOUR hefty salary. I will be asking for your resignation and will be a very vocal voice as my high school Junior and her class starts looking at colleges. How dare you pass judgement. I thought you were a Christian.

  16. As a mom of a senior student who has made the Dean’s List every semester since Freshman year I am sickened and appalled by your comments. My daughter lived on campus Freshman year so she could get the “college experience”. The nice way of saying living with a stranger in a noisy room, half the size of her own for an exorbitant amount of money. Let’s not even talk about the expensive meal plan that lacks flavor or diversity. We moved her home Sophomore year due to her roommate having a breakdown and to save money when her Dad was laid off. Despite the hardship and her 4.0 she was not eligible for aid. Instead what we saved in dorms was charged to a parking pass. Slippery Rock students pay $60 a year. Duquesne pays $800. I get Duquesne is in the city as apposed to other colleges but surely you can see where this can bd viewed as price gouging. So yes, when Junior year rolled around we as her parents reluctantly agreed a South Side residency was best. Not only can she share an entire house with 2 friends she chose at a FRACTION of the price but she has free parking and access to a shuttle. The house comes with a clean, more up to date kitchen than your “best” dormitory overs and the girls are learning to cook for each other and themselves and save money. Are there ever boys over? You bet your ass there are because when you forced our hand to move my daughter into an “unsavory” neighborhood I insist her guy FRIENDS escort the ladies home. As do the boys moms as well. We have had the privilege of getting to know her roommates, friends and even their parents that we wouldn’t if she stayed in the dorms. And yes I have met them out after work for a cocktail. Does that make me a “Libertine”? Be careful of your answer Mr. Dougherty as I sign the tuition checks that help make up YOUR hefty salary. I will be asking for your resignation and will be a very vocal voice as my high school Junior and her class starts looking at colleges. How dare you pass judgement. I thought you were a Christian.

  17. As a mom of a senior student who has made the Dean’s List every semester since Freshman year I am sickened and appalled by your comments. My daughter lived on campus Freshman year so she could get the “college experience”. The nice way of saying living with a stranger in a noisy room, half the size of her own for an exorbitant amount of money. Let’s not even talk about the expensive meal plan that lacks flavor or diversity. We moved her home Sophomore year due to her roommate having a breakdown and to save money when her Dad was laid off. Despite the hardship and her 4.0 she was not eligible for aid. Instead what we saved in dorms was charged to a parking pass. Slippery Rock students pay $60 a year. Duquesne pays $800. I get Duquesne is in the city as apposed to other colleges but surely you can see where this can bd viewed as price gouging. So yes, when Junior year rolled around we as her parents reluctantly agreed a South Side residency was best. Not only can she share an entire house with 2 friends she chose at a FRACTION of the price but she has free parking and access to a shuttle. The house comes with a clean, more up to date kitchen than your “best” dormitory overs and the girls are learning to cook for each other and themselves and save money. Are there ever boys over? You bet your ass there are because when you forced our hand to move my daughter into an “unsavory” neighborhood I insist her guy FRIENDS escort the ladies home. As do the boys moms as well. We have had the privilege of getting to know her roommates, friends and even their parents that we wouldn’t if she stayed in the dorms. And yes I have met them out after work for a cocktail. Does that make me a “Libertine”? Be careful of your answer Mr. Dougherty as I sign the tuition checks that help make up YOUR hefty salary. I will be asking for your resignation and will be a very vocal voice as my high school Junior and her class starts looking at colleges. How dare you pass judgement. I thought you were a Christian.

  18. My first reaction upon hearing Dougherty’s remarks was: How dare you! We can parse all the housing issues ad nauseum. The simple fact is that is is none of the president’s damn business, nor the damn business of any other university administrator, what students do in their personal lives, on or off-campus. As an alumnus, the husband of an alumnus and the father of an alumnus, I am sickened by the direction our alma mater has taken. Time to wake up, alumni. Stop supporting this corrupt institution until it starts adhering to American values.

  19. My first reaction upon hearing Dougherty’s remarks was: How dare you! We can parse all the housing issues ad nauseum. The simple fact is that is is none of the president’s damn business, nor the damn business of any other university administrator, what students do in their personal lives, on or off-campus. As an alumnus, the husband of an alumnus and the father of an alumnus, I am sickened by the direction our alma mater has taken. Time to wake up, alumni. Stop supporting this corrupt institution until it starts adhering to American values.

  20. My first reaction upon hearing Dougherty’s remarks was: How dare you! We can parse all the housing issues ad nauseum. The simple fact is that is is none of the president’s damn business, nor the damn business of any other university administrator, what students do in their personal lives, on or off-campus. As an alumnus, the husband of an alumnus and the father of an alumnus, I am sickened by the direction our alma mater has taken. Time to wake up, alumni. Stop supporting this corrupt institution until it starts adhering to American values.

  21. Half of a Brottier room: Approximately $800/month.

    Private room in a house within walking distance from Brottier: $320/month.

    This is the only argument necessary.

  22. Half of a Brottier room: Approximately $800/month.

    Private room in a house within walking distance from Brottier: $320/month.

    This is the only argument necessary.

  23. Half of a Brottier room: Approximately $800/month.

    Private room in a house within walking distance from Brottier: $320/month.

    This is the only argument necessary.

  24. This guy sounds like a very level headed human being. Yeah what a joke, guy sounds like a complete asshole. Funny thing is, I moved off of campus because the internet on campus is the slowest, most unreliable wifi I’ve ever come across. Leave it to some judgmental traditionalist to make the comment of the year. May you live on in infamy Daugherty.

  25. This guy sounds like a very level headed human being. Yeah what a joke, guy sounds like a complete asshole. Funny thing is, I moved off of campus because the internet on campus is the slowest, most unreliable wifi I’ve ever come across. Leave it to some judgmental traditionalist to make the comment of the year. May you live on in infamy Daugherty.

  26. This guy sounds like a very level headed human being. Yeah what a joke, guy sounds like a complete asshole. Funny thing is, I moved off of campus because the internet on campus is the slowest, most unreliable wifi I’ve ever come across. Leave it to some judgmental traditionalist to make the comment of the year. May you live on in infamy Daugherty.

  27. Can we talk about the fact that calling the students ‘libertine’ and obviously meaning it in a bad way is also some serious slut shaming? Duquesne’s dorm policies about opposite sex guests are absurd and archaic. I understand that this is a Christian university, but Christ taught acceptance, certainly not slut shaming. The demeaning tone of all this just leaves a bitter taste in my mouth.

  28. Can we talk about the fact that calling the students ‘libertine’ and obviously meaning it in a bad way is also some serious slut shaming? Duquesne’s dorm policies about opposite sex guests are absurd and archaic. I understand that this is a Christian university, but Christ taught acceptance, certainly not slut shaming. The demeaning tone of all this just leaves a bitter taste in my mouth.

  29. Can we talk about the fact that calling the students ‘libertine’ and obviously meaning it in a bad way is also some serious slut shaming? Duquesne’s dorm policies about opposite sex guests are absurd and archaic. I understand that this is a Christian university, but Christ taught acceptance, certainly not slut shaming. The demeaning tone of all this just leaves a bitter taste in my mouth.

  30. As a pharmacy grad that lived off-campus since year 3, I am appalled by the President’s comments. My roommates and I moved off campus to a cheap dilapidated house in South Side purely because it got too expensive to live on campus. Yeah, we partied on the weekends, but we did that on our wing in Towers too, and isn’t that part of the college experience? I paid $290 a month for rent, as opposed to the ridiculous on-campus rates some of my colleagues paid in Brottier. As someone who now lives with close to $200k in college debt from coming from a not-so-well-off-but-too-well-off-for-a-Pell-Grant family to receive an education at Duquesne, I can assure you that people move off of campus purely for financial reasons. Maybe do some research before condemning the students and alumni that pay your salary.

  31. As a pharmacy grad that lived off-campus since year 3, I am appalled by the President’s comments. My roommates and I moved off campus to a cheap dilapidated house in South Side purely because it got too expensive to live on campus. Yeah, we partied on the weekends, but we did that on our wing in Towers too, and isn’t that part of the college experience? I paid $290 a month for rent, as opposed to the ridiculous on-campus rates some of my colleagues paid in Brottier. As someone who now lives with close to $200k in college debt from coming from a not-so-well-off-but-too-well-off-for-a-Pell-Grant family to receive an education at Duquesne, I can assure you that people move off of campus purely for financial reasons. Maybe do some research before condemning the students and alumni that pay your salary.

  32. As a pharmacy grad that lived off-campus since year 3, I am appalled by the President’s comments. My roommates and I moved off campus to a cheap dilapidated house in South Side purely because it got too expensive to live on campus. Yeah, we partied on the weekends, but we did that on our wing in Towers too, and isn’t that part of the college experience? I paid $290 a month for rent, as opposed to the ridiculous on-campus rates some of my colleagues paid in Brottier. As someone who now lives with close to $200k in college debt from coming from a not-so-well-off-but-too-well-off-for-a-Pell-Grant family to receive an education at Duquesne, I can assure you that people move off of campus purely for financial reasons. Maybe do some research before condemning the students and alumni that pay your salary.

  33. Taking a break from President Dougherty’s absurd remarks about off campus students I’d like to try and change some people’s views on the new ring statue on campus. Did the ring cost a lot of money? Yes. Are students not happy about this? Yes. Is the ring actually awesome though? YES. In the past two to three decades this school has made no progress as a whole. Upon entering college Duquesne was ranked just below 100 in the top colleges in the country. A new list this year ranks us below 200. While we’ve remained stagnant in the past couple decades every other school in the Pittsburgh area has been able to make progress. Even POINT PARK has grown in both size and respect as an institution. Duquesne has not only not made progress as an institution, it whole-heartedly lacks any comradery or traditions. We have no sports teams to rally behind and are so oppressed by rules and regulations (what is the point in blocking Netflix?) that it’s undeniable now more than ever that things need a change around here. While the ring did cost a lot of money, it is a celebration of the ONLY tradition that this school has. The Duquesne class ring is the most recognizable ring in the world and that’s a matter of fact. If we as a student body wants to change how this abysmal administration treats us then we have to rally behind these traditions. With a new athletic director already making positive progress and President Dougherty’s replacement happening before the next school year, I’m looking up at the direction that this school is heading. And if I’ve been a little all over the place allow me to summarize; at its current state, this school is no where near where it needs to be. But hey, I say we throw one big LIBERTINE PARTY in celebration of Dougherty’s resignation and to getting where we need to be.

    1. is the ring actually awesome?? uhhh no. no one cares about the ring. who do you see under the age of 30
      wearing a class ring? you know who wears class rings? our parents and grandparents. you’re surely out of touch with what’s popular amongst your peers.

      if the only thing you can think of to celebrate from our university is a ring that says something.

    2. Is that your SGA president writing about our most accomplished ring? Not that its stupid but it is not the most important tradition DU has,,,,,the most important is our Spriti
      an Foundation which is completely gone.

      1. Can we also address the fact that they literally moved a cross with Jesus on it to put in a statue praising this “tradition”? I think the original tradition celebrated things like reverence and humility. When certain administrators, who are also priests, are members of places like the Duquesne Club in downtown and give out bobble heads with their faces on it, they only show how far the people in the upper ranks of the university have truly deviated from the Catholic mission that this university was founded on. It’s not about you, it’s about Christ and serving others. You don’t serve others by building statues to yourselves and naming buildings on campus after yourselves. I’m honestly not surprised that lack of respect for students comes along with this.

  34. Taking a break from President Dougherty’s absurd remarks about off campus students I’d like to try and change some people’s views on the new ring statue on campus. Did the ring cost a lot of money? Yes. Are students not happy about this? Yes. Is the ring actually awesome though? YES. In the past two to three decades this school has made no progress as a whole. Upon entering college Duquesne was ranked just below 100 in the top colleges in the country. A new list this year ranks us below 200. While we’ve remained stagnant in the past couple decades every other school in the Pittsburgh area has been able to make progress. Even POINT PARK has grown in both size and respect as an institution. Duquesne has not only not made progress as an institution, it whole-heartedly lacks any comradery or traditions. We have no sports teams to rally behind and are so oppressed by rules and regulations (what is the point in blocking Netflix?) that it’s undeniable now more than ever that things need a change around here. While the ring did cost a lot of money, it is a celebration of the ONLY tradition that this school has. The Duquesne class ring is the most recognizable ring in the world and that’s a matter of fact. If we as a student body wants to change how this abysmal administration treats us then we have to rally behind these traditions. With a new athletic director already making positive progress and President Dougherty’s replacement happening before the next school year, I’m looking up at the direction that this school is heading. And if I’ve been a little all over the place allow me to summarize; at its current state, this school is no where near where it needs to be. But hey, I say we throw one big LIBERTINE PARTY in celebration of Dougherty’s resignation and to getting where we need to be.

    1. is the ring actually awesome?? uhhh no. no one cares about the ring. who do you see under the age of 30
      wearing a class ring? you know who wears class rings? our parents and grandparents. you’re surely out of touch with what’s popular amongst your peers.

      if the only thing you can think of to celebrate from our university is a ring that says something.

    2. Is that your SGA president writing about our most accomplished ring? Not that its stupid but it is not the most important tradition DU has,,,,,the most important is our Spriti
      an Foundation which is completely gone.

      1. Can we also address the fact that they literally moved a cross with Jesus on it to put in a statue praising this “tradition”? I think the original tradition celebrated things like reverence and humility. When certain administrators, who are also priests, are members of places like the Duquesne Club in downtown and give out bobble heads with their faces on it, they only show how far the people in the upper ranks of the university have truly deviated from the Catholic mission that this university was founded on. It’s not about you, it’s about Christ and serving others. You don’t serve others by building statues to yourselves and naming buildings on campus after yourselves. I’m honestly not surprised that lack of respect for students comes along with this.

  35. Taking a break from President Dougherty’s absurd remarks about off campus students I’d like to try and change some people’s views on the new ring statue on campus. Did the ring cost a lot of money? Yes. Are students not happy about this? Yes. Is the ring actually awesome though? YES. In the past two to three decades this school has made no progress as a whole. Upon entering college Duquesne was ranked just below 100 in the top colleges in the country. A new list this year ranks us below 200. While we’ve remained stagnant in the past couple decades every other school in the Pittsburgh area has been able to make progress. Even POINT PARK has grown in both size and respect as an institution. Duquesne has not only not made progress as an institution, it whole-heartedly lacks any comradery or traditions. We have no sports teams to rally behind and are so oppressed by rules and regulations (what is the point in blocking Netflix?) that it’s undeniable now more than ever that things need a change around here. While the ring did cost a lot of money, it is a celebration of the ONLY tradition that this school has. The Duquesne class ring is the most recognizable ring in the world and that’s a matter of fact. If we as a student body wants to change how this abysmal administration treats us then we have to rally behind these traditions. With a new athletic director already making positive progress and President Dougherty’s replacement happening before the next school year, I’m looking up at the direction that this school is heading. And if I’ve been a little all over the place allow me to summarize; at its current state, this school is no where near where it needs to be. But hey, I say we throw one big LIBERTINE PARTY in celebration of Dougherty’s resignation and to getting where we need to be.

    1. is the ring actually awesome?? uhhh no. no one cares about the ring. who do you see under the age of 30
      wearing a class ring? you know who wears class rings? our parents and grandparents. you’re surely out of touch with what’s popular amongst your peers.

      if the only thing you can think of to celebrate from our university is a ring that says something.

    2. Is that your SGA president writing about our most accomplished ring? Not that its stupid but it is not the most important tradition DU has,,,,,the most important is our Spriti
      an Foundation which is completely gone.

      1. Can we also address the fact that they literally moved a cross with Jesus on it to put in a statue praising this “tradition”? I think the original tradition celebrated things like reverence and humility. When certain administrators, who are also priests, are members of places like the Duquesne Club in downtown and give out bobble heads with their faces on it, they only show how far the people in the upper ranks of the university have truly deviated from the Catholic mission that this university was founded on. It’s not about you, it’s about Christ and serving others. You don’t serve others by building statues to yourselves and naming buildings on campus after yourselves. I’m honestly not surprised that lack of respect for students comes along with this.

  36. This guy must be living in the DARK ages, I’m a Grandmother of a Junior at another University in Pennsylvania and the rental she has off campus, has me re.thinking my investment strategy!!!! AND has he ever heard the phrase Judge lest YE NOT BE JUDGED! RIDICULOUS, Shame on you!

  37. This guy must be living in the DARK ages, I’m a Grandmother of a Junior at another University in Pennsylvania and the rental she has off campus, has me re.thinking my investment strategy!!!! AND has he ever heard the phrase Judge lest YE NOT BE JUDGED! RIDICULOUS, Shame on you!

  38. This guy must be living in the DARK ages, I’m a Grandmother of a Junior at another University in Pennsylvania and the rental she has off campus, has me re.thinking my investment strategy!!!! AND has he ever heard the phrase Judge lest YE NOT BE JUDGED! RIDICULOUS, Shame on you!

  39. I guess somebody needs to mention the asbestos in Fisher also.

    Looks like Duquesne is having some troubles this year.

    Troughout my 4 years of school here it has been proven to me that Duquesne is a money crazed bureaucracy that does not care enough to take care of its student body.

    I believe these comments fall right in line with my experience with Duquesne faculty/administration

  40. I guess somebody needs to mention the asbestos in Fisher also.

    Looks like Duquesne is having some troubles this year.

    Troughout my 4 years of school here it has been proven to me that Duquesne is a money crazed bureaucracy that does not care enough to take care of its student body.

    I believe these comments fall right in line with my experience with Duquesne faculty/administration

  41. I guess somebody needs to mention the asbestos in Fisher also.

    Looks like Duquesne is having some troubles this year.

    Troughout my 4 years of school here it has been proven to me that Duquesne is a money crazed bureaucracy that does not care enough to take care of its student body.

    I believe these comments fall right in line with my experience with Duquesne faculty/administration

  42. An open letter to President Dougherty:

    You made a serious accusation by claiming that students move off campus strictly to “…flaunt the state liquor laws and they live a libertine lifestyle that is not allowed on campus.” Libertine is described by The Duke Staff above, but for clarification, it means “a person, especially a man, who behaves without moral principles or a sense of responsibility, especially in sexual matters; a person who rejects accepted opinions in matters of religion; a freethinker characterized by a disregard of morality.”

    Let’s ignore the sexual component of this accusation for a minute, you are criticizing and undermining freethinkers. I’m sorry, but shouldn’t a president of a university like Duquesne be encouraging freethinking in his students? I, for one, am unbelievably upset that you would criticize the personalities, moral compasses, and belief systems of your students. You generalized that those who live off campus “reject accepted opinions in matters of religion”…what kind of person in the public eye AND administrator of a university would do such a thing and not expect any backlash? Are you truly that naive?

    How dare you talk about the “budget problems on campus” and turn the blame on 304 empty beds? What about all the renovations and unnecessary additions that the University has been doing for the last 5 years? Do we think the new theater attached to the music school was simply a “gift”? No, we don’t. And think about how much money that cost that could have been reallocated to a cause a little more worthwhile…let’s say, perhaps exterminating the cockroaches in Towers?

    Before enrolling in Duquesne University, students are fully aware of the Catholic policies and tendencies; that is not the issue here. The issue at hand is that you and many (not all) other school officials live in a totally different la-la land where you do not acknowledge the problems that are already happening ON campus. Are you aware of the “mardi gras” that happens on the Bluff? Students drink, have sex, do drugs, and participate in the so-called “libertine lifestyle” under your very own nose and if they get caught their punishment is spending an afternoon or Saturday morning with Dan Gittins (lovely, lovely man) and taking a crash course on exactly why “DU CARES.”

    Shouldn’t we be making proactive decisions instead of reactive decisions as an administration? Educating students on safe sex and drinking practices, because…let’s be frank; freshmen and sophomore students are going to be trying Natty Light no matter how many times you tell them they’re not allowed. Students are going to be students, just like kids are going to be kids…there’s no avoidance of this. Forcing upperclassmen to live in dorms suited for freshmen and sophomores is not the answer. The answer is opening your eyes to the changes that are happening all around you. There are many reasons students want to live off campus, and that’s not exactly for you to judge. Money is the first and foremost motivator; off campus housing saved my family THOUSANDS of dollars.

    Lastly, how I choose to live my life is my own concern and absolutely none of your business. I will not be ashamed of how I choose to live my life, libertine or not.

    So please kindly take a step back, give your apology, and let’s put this behind us.

    Thank you,

    Duquesne University past, present and future students

  43. An open letter to President Dougherty:

    You made a serious accusation by claiming that students move off campus strictly to “…flaunt the state liquor laws and they live a libertine lifestyle that is not allowed on campus.” Libertine is described by The Duke Staff above, but for clarification, it means “a person, especially a man, who behaves without moral principles or a sense of responsibility, especially in sexual matters; a person who rejects accepted opinions in matters of religion; a freethinker characterized by a disregard of morality.”

    Let’s ignore the sexual component of this accusation for a minute, you are criticizing and undermining freethinkers. I’m sorry, but shouldn’t a president of a university like Duquesne be encouraging freethinking in his students? I, for one, am unbelievably upset that you would criticize the personalities, moral compasses, and belief systems of your students. You generalized that those who live off campus “reject accepted opinions in matters of religion”…what kind of person in the public eye AND administrator of a university would do such a thing and not expect any backlash? Are you truly that naive?

    How dare you talk about the “budget problems on campus” and turn the blame on 304 empty beds? What about all the renovations and unnecessary additions that the University has been doing for the last 5 years? Do we think the new theater attached to the music school was simply a “gift”? No, we don’t. And think about how much money that cost that could have been reallocated to a cause a little more worthwhile…let’s say, perhaps exterminating the cockroaches in Towers?

    Before enrolling in Duquesne University, students are fully aware of the Catholic policies and tendencies; that is not the issue here. The issue at hand is that you and many (not all) other school officials live in a totally different la-la land where you do not acknowledge the problems that are already happening ON campus. Are you aware of the “mardi gras” that happens on the Bluff? Students drink, have sex, do drugs, and participate in the so-called “libertine lifestyle” under your very own nose and if they get caught their punishment is spending an afternoon or Saturday morning with Dan Gittins (lovely, lovely man) and taking a crash course on exactly why “DU CARES.”

    Shouldn’t we be making proactive decisions instead of reactive decisions as an administration? Educating students on safe sex and drinking practices, because…let’s be frank; freshmen and sophomore students are going to be trying Natty Light no matter how many times you tell them they’re not allowed. Students are going to be students, just like kids are going to be kids…there’s no avoidance of this. Forcing upperclassmen to live in dorms suited for freshmen and sophomores is not the answer. The answer is opening your eyes to the changes that are happening all around you. There are many reasons students want to live off campus, and that’s not exactly for you to judge. Money is the first and foremost motivator; off campus housing saved my family THOUSANDS of dollars.

    Lastly, how I choose to live my life is my own concern and absolutely none of your business. I will not be ashamed of how I choose to live my life, libertine or not.

    So please kindly take a step back, give your apology, and let’s put this behind us.

    Thank you,

    Duquesne University past, present and future students

  44. An open letter to President Dougherty:

    You made a serious accusation by claiming that students move off campus strictly to “…flaunt the state liquor laws and they live a libertine lifestyle that is not allowed on campus.” Libertine is described by The Duke Staff above, but for clarification, it means “a person, especially a man, who behaves without moral principles or a sense of responsibility, especially in sexual matters; a person who rejects accepted opinions in matters of religion; a freethinker characterized by a disregard of morality.”

    Let’s ignore the sexual component of this accusation for a minute, you are criticizing and undermining freethinkers. I’m sorry, but shouldn’t a president of a university like Duquesne be encouraging freethinking in his students? I, for one, am unbelievably upset that you would criticize the personalities, moral compasses, and belief systems of your students. You generalized that those who live off campus “reject accepted opinions in matters of religion”…what kind of person in the public eye AND administrator of a university would do such a thing and not expect any backlash? Are you truly that naive?

    How dare you talk about the “budget problems on campus” and turn the blame on 304 empty beds? What about all the renovations and unnecessary additions that the University has been doing for the last 5 years? Do we think the new theater attached to the music school was simply a “gift”? No, we don’t. And think about how much money that cost that could have been reallocated to a cause a little more worthwhile…let’s say, perhaps exterminating the cockroaches in Towers?

    Before enrolling in Duquesne University, students are fully aware of the Catholic policies and tendencies; that is not the issue here. The issue at hand is that you and many (not all) other school officials live in a totally different la-la land where you do not acknowledge the problems that are already happening ON campus. Are you aware of the “mardi gras” that happens on the Bluff? Students drink, have sex, do drugs, and participate in the so-called “libertine lifestyle” under your very own nose and if they get caught their punishment is spending an afternoon or Saturday morning with Dan Gittins (lovely, lovely man) and taking a crash course on exactly why “DU CARES.”

    Shouldn’t we be making proactive decisions instead of reactive decisions as an administration? Educating students on safe sex and drinking practices, because…let’s be frank; freshmen and sophomore students are going to be trying Natty Light no matter how many times you tell them they’re not allowed. Students are going to be students, just like kids are going to be kids…there’s no avoidance of this. Forcing upperclassmen to live in dorms suited for freshmen and sophomores is not the answer. The answer is opening your eyes to the changes that are happening all around you. There are many reasons students want to live off campus, and that’s not exactly for you to judge. Money is the first and foremost motivator; off campus housing saved my family THOUSANDS of dollars.

    Lastly, how I choose to live my life is my own concern and absolutely none of your business. I will not be ashamed of how I choose to live my life, libertine or not.

    So please kindly take a step back, give your apology, and let’s put this behind us.

    Thank you,

    Duquesne University past, present and future students

  45. I’m astounded to think a university president could be this out of touch with the reasoning behind students living off campus. College costs are outrageous and the number one reason students live off campus is less expensive housing and not being locked in to a meal plan.

  46. I’m astounded to think a university president could be this out of touch with the reasoning behind students living off campus. College costs are outrageous and the number one reason students live off campus is less expensive housing and not being locked in to a meal plan.

  47. I’m astounded to think a university president could be this out of touch with the reasoning behind students living off campus. College costs are outrageous and the number one reason students live off campus is less expensive housing and not being locked in to a meal plan.

Leave a Comment